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Old 01-28-2010, 01:50 PM   #41
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More vitriol.
Really ? Quite the opposite... I was humbly backing down actually. I give up...
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:17 PM   #42
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Would the infantry vs vehicle field switch again if we had an AvRiL with a more serious punch, like 500 HP or something? You could make it slower or something to give the birds a chance to fly away, but it would put a serious hole in ANY tank.
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:50 PM   #43
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Sure, ONS is still popular. But it's not UT2004 any more. When I first played UT2004, there were only a few vehicles. On the heavy side, there was a Goliath, which was really cool and could do lots of damage. Then, there was the Paladin, which had a gun and a big shield, which was really cool. For when you wanted to do a lot of damage at once, there was the ion tank, but the trade-off was that it was a little bit more vulnerable and took longer to fire. Then there was this big, crazy Leviathan that had a huge gun, but was vulnerable to the Raptor and Manta.

Now, we have tanks that shoot fire, goo, rounds that do a thousand damage, rapid-fire rounds, lasers, redeemers, and anti-air missiles. We have mini-tanks that can't be hit with an AVRiL. We have something like a Paladin, but faster. We have something like a Leviathan, but with way more armor and heavier weapons. We have different fliers that are almost all faster, certainly all more powerful. People complain when there are regular, "slow" scorpions. Maps are then made to be ten times bigger to compensate for the fast vehicle. The fact is that there is now a glut of stupidly overpowered, fast vehicles, and it's impossible to get very far on foot, which means you may as well just spawn in a damn tank. There's something new and shiny to play with, and your aim doesn't matter because the supertank deals a bajillion splash damage. This, of course, gives rise to the belief that ONS is about the stupid vehicles, which is why people bitch and moan every time a map like Bitchslap makes them have to actually shoot things with the weapons that the game came with.

I still play ONS a lot because it's a reminder of what once was, and because I'm frankly pretty pathetic when it comes to my spare time these days, but it is NOT the same game any more. We had a couple of maps that were full of overpowered crap in AS (I'm thinking Levellerrace). They were hated by a pretty sizable portion of the players.



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I never got to play Assault, at the time I began in here (Omni) I was infatuated with ONS and didn't play anything
else. By the time I decided to try AS, it was already mostly dead. From everything you guys say (and others), I
know I missed out.


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Old 01-28-2010, 06:54 PM   #44
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Ow yeah, I almost forgot . . . .



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Old 01-28-2010, 07:59 PM   #45
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Weren't you responsible for a version of Trek that incorporated a bunch of that trash?
Incorrect. My sole contribution to mapping was a minor fix to Outback.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:03 PM   #46
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Now, we have tanks that shoot fire, goo, rounds that do a thousand damage, rapid-fire rounds, lasers, redeemers, and anti-air missiles. We have mini-tanks that can't be hit with an AVRiL. We have something like a Paladin, but faster. We have something like a Leviathan, but with way more armor and heavier weapons. We have different fliers that are almost all faster, certainly all more powerful.
I didn't know it's been so long since I played, because I haven't seen or heard of anything like this. Or maybe I just missed it because I only played AS.
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I didn't know it's been so long since I played, because I haven't seen or heard of anything like this. Or maybe I just missed it because I only played AS.
Well, are you gonna start playing Onslaught? In the evening the server usually fills up (32 players) and we have a blast!
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Yeah I'll probably pop in from time to time. Though it might take a little while to get a hang of the Onslaught etiquette, I'm still pretty unfamiliar with that mode online wise.
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Yeah I'll probably pop in from time to time. Though it might take a little while to get a hang of the Onslaught etiquette, I'm still pretty unfamiliar with that mode online wise.
Just jump in the biggest, shiniest vehicle as fast as you can (AS teaches us about getting things right as they spawn, no?) and shoot a wall until you've blown yourself up. Then people will teach you etiquette.
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Just jump in the biggest, shiniest vehicle as fast as you can (AS teaches us about getting things right as they spawn, no?) and shoot a wall until you've blown yourself up. Then people will teach you etiquette.
Everything I know of UT, I learned from Hellbender Race. So I have that vehicle part locked down, not so sure on the wall though.
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