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The mino on MTMU-Nightwolf, Nevermore-TMU, and pretty much every Death Warrant map with a mino is the "old" version, Minotaur as opposed to Omni's Min)o(taur. It's more "balanced" in that it's slightly easier to drive and the main gun isn't as powerful. The two gunner seats are swapped, though -- 2 gives you the laser turret (the one you want to avoid except for pesky fliers) and 3 gives you the minigun turret (the one that doesn't broadcast your position to the entire map).

You don't get the "Charge!" horn with the old Mino, either.

Originally Posted by Kamek

The mino on MTMU-Nightwolf, Nevermore-TMU, and pretty much every Death Warrant map with a mino is the "old" version, Minotaur as opposed to Omni's Min)o(taur. It's more "balanced" in that it's slightly easier to drive and the main gun isn't as powerful. The two gunner seats are swapped, though -- 2 gives you the laser turret (the one you want to avoid except for pesky fliers) and 3 gives you the minigun turret (the one that doesn't broadcast your position to the entire map).

You don't get the "Charge!" horn with the old Mino, either.

And it spins when it is shot or ran into, like it is lighter than a Kraken.

More off topic and it will probably fan some flames but I'm drunk and high so so what.

It used to be that every vehicle at least had a chance against every other vehicle. With the Omnitaur and now the Dragon, Falcon, and Wasp, the vehicle setup is way unbalanced and kind of ruins the gameplay, imo. They are fun and I understand the desire but if you up stats on one vehicle I think all the other vehicles should be upped as well. Those vehicles don't belong on maps with stock vehicles. New vehicles seem to be geared towards more powerful instead of just different.

The omni-styled vehicles are more like chess pieces. Omnitaur is the queen, of course, but if you can sneak up on one with a Bio it's toast. Wasps aren't too great against other fliers but they dominate ground vehicles and chew them up like candy -- great against those Omnitaurs and Krakens (but it'll probably take quite a few runs with a wasp to destroy the kraken unless the driver is an idiot). Dragon wrecks ground units and nodes, but other fliers and anything with a laser turret can make short work of it. And so on. It's just a matter of finding the right tool for the job -- if one is available. If not, then you're hosed.

Originally Posted by Binger

With the Omnitaur and now the Dragon, Falcon, and Wasp, the vehicle setup is way unbalanced and kind of ruins the gameplay, imo. They are fun and I understand the desire but if you up stats on one vehicle I think all the other vehicles should be upped as well.

Kamek brings up good points. The key to the new "amped" vehicles has always been about trying to balance
them in the maps they are put in. Gorzakk was one of the best "balancers" we (Omni) ever had. Shame he
fell by the wayside.

But the balance/strength argument is one that has gone on since we first moved away from stock vehicles (I'm
talking design). That's why I am personally still partial to mixing stock maps/vehicles into the map rotations.
Those maps require MUCH more teamwork.

Hi, Ritalin here. Love the server. Been playing since Unreal one, Ondoher's Bistro and the Crusties. My favorite kill was upstairs in Bunker, found someone fragging the vehicles, got in and threw a burning raptor at him. Say hi to Domm.

Originally Posted by Ritalin

Hi, Ritalin here. Love the server. Been playing since Unreal one, Ondoher's Bistro and the Crusties. My favorite kill was upstairs in Bunker, found someone fragging the vehicles, got in and threw a burning raptor at him. Say hi to Domm.

Welc)o(me to the insane asylum Rit.

welc)o(me ritalin- always good to have a new face

Originally Posted by DjAy-T

the problem is lag in the ping... remember the movie 'gamer'? i always shoot (a split second)right before i think its the perfect time WOULD be.

... and that my friend, is the secret to life, 42ms-life, lol.

I think the mino firing down range, where you can't see the node through the fog, has some coding issue perhaps as to where the fire is placed. Doesn't the mino only hit targets within range of the fog? Is it true that they hit targets outside fog-line-of-sight?

Sumugan,

The Mino can hit through the fog they do it on Dria all the time from hill 5 or 10 and in MTMU all versions you can hit the secondaries and not see them

Originally Posted by Sumugan

... and that my friend, is the secret to life, 42ms-life, lol.

I think the mino firing down range, where you can't see the node through the fog, has some coding issue perhaps as to where the fire is placed. Doesn't the mino only hit targets within range of the fog? Is it true that they hit targets outside fog-line-of-sight?

Yes, it's true. Range on the Mino is 28500. The fog does not affect that. For reference, the fog distance on Dria-TMU is 18000, D-Junk is 19000, Magic is 20000, MTMU-Kamek is 20000, and MTMU-Random is 24000.

Originally Posted by Binger

Yes, it's true. Range on the Mino is 28500. The fog does not affect that. For reference, the fog distance on Dria-TMU is 18000, D-Junk is 19000, Magic is 20000, MTMU-Kamek is 20000, and MTMU-Random is 24000.

Thanks.

Thanks. Smoker.

Unfortunately, our modern society is not eager to accept certain rules that have been established many centuries ago. It seems to be weird and ridiculous. Wondering about camping etiquette? Open http://livecustomwriting.com/blog/key-points-of-camping-etiquette! You'll be surprised!

Originally Posted by PauletteLowry

Unfortunately, our modern society is not eager to accept certain rules that have been established many centuries ago. It seems to be weird and ridiculous. Wondering about camping etiquette? Open http://livecustomwriting.com/blog/ke...ping-etiquette! You'll be surprised!

Did I miss something??? Wrong camping girl!

It feels like a phishing scam to me. Maybe IP logging at the very least.

Originally Posted by $m39m4

It feels like a phishing scam to me. Maybe IP logging at the very least.

Sounds like its time to boot up the ol linux tails and play with them!!

It could be a simple SEO tactic.

Originally Posted by $m39m4

It feels like a phishing scam to me. Maybe IP logging at the very least.

Lucky then for me that I used my work computer to see the totally off-topic camping etiquette, this person is confused what we mean by FPS camping in a game! lol

From the OP:

Originally Posted by Gorzakk

Anyone want to add to this?

Yeah, old thread, I know, but it's still stickied and still applies to the game (yet, Enyo doesn't seem to understand the other side to it, that it just turns out to be a double standard of his own).

1) Do not take the vehicle that the teammate exited to build a node himself, unless the teammate told you to do so - or for EMERGENCY reasons (e.g., you see that there is absolutely no way for the teammate to get back to the vehicle in time before enemy mino is going to blow the whole place to smithereens, so you take it to escape and fight -- if the teammate indeed survives, then give the vehicle back ASAP).

2) No matter how new or inexperienced the teammate is, if the teammate is already about to get into the vehicle that is about to spawn at a node, do not jump in and snatch the vehicle right in front of that teammate. It's RUDE as hell, and reeks of obnoxiousness. We don't break in lines at grocery stores for the same reason.

Both rules of thumb apply for the same reason, that it's a no-brainer. We don't want to drive players out of the game, hence such common sense etiquette.

LMK what you guys think about this - anything to add?