Fight or leave but don't sandbag.

Originally Posted by Mr.Crow

Idont think Sarge has left. Name change is all.

Where have all the McGimpkins gone?

Racer, i have not been back. You might have someone aliasing as me.

Originally Posted by YEAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Unpopular opinion: I think xexx's playing style is fine.

I dont like being the victim of locked node/core spamming but I dont think it's a helpless scenario. Just get your shock rifle out or hop in a tank or dodge jump away with your spawn protection or choose a different node.

I'll do it every once in a while too... I think of it as kind of a random alternate sport strategy like bunting or an onside kick. Break the norm for a bit. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

What does it for me is the d-bags on the mic/text... Shadow, cletus. Also people who alias so they can say super racist shit (i suppose cletus counts in that category too). And to begin to steer back to original topic, deadweight people out for a joyride in important vehicles or afk are always a bummer.

The problem with this is that you don't have time to do any of this. He usually kills you before the vehicles spawn, so you're stuck in the open. All he has to do is shoot at the node because he knows you'll be linking it and will be close enough to die from the splash damage. I have no issue with spawn killing at the next node in line, though. We call xexx out for being a douche because he flies across the map and shoots at the very first node his enemy is building, so there is no connection and it's just to pad his points. Not because he's just hitting the next node in line as his team builds the previous node. It also leads to others thinking this type of game play is fine. Other good players now do this, as you've admitted. There has also been an uptick in core camping. I understand it's ok to steal the deemer or kill the mino at the core, but don't sit there killing players until it spawns again.

And, as many have said, just mute him. I have him muted for this exact reason.

I dunno. To me ONS is about nodes. Build 'em, take 'em down, advance... Advance... Advance. Im not into to this hanging out at locked nodes BS or camping the core. All these cheesy tactics from people who stray from the whole point of the game.

I guess... Some people are bored and just want to camp, spawn kill, cruise vehicles around a map and do nothing. If they are that bored, then move on to another game and leave us die hards to play it the way it was meant to be played.

Originally Posted by TotalBurn

I dunno. To me ONS is about nodes. Build 'em, take 'em down, advance... Advance... Advance. Im not into to this hanging out at locked nodes BS or camping the core. All these cheesy tactics from people who stray from the whole point of the game.

I guess... Some people are bored and just want to camp, spawn kill, cruise vehicles around a map and do nothing. If they are that bored, then move on to another game and leave us die hards to play it the way it was meant to be played.

Well said, or as Carpe would put it... QFT.

Originally Posted by Enyo

Well said, or as Carpe would put it... QFT.

But, Carpe doesn't play anymore, so....

It's a joke, everyone knows Carpe still plays

Originally Posted by Enyo

Well said, or as Carpe would put it... QFT.

Ive always have respect for you as a player and I know everything you do is with the teams best interest. You dont fuck around and winning the round is a priority.

Sorry, but I have to admit that I sandbag. If it's 30 points left on the core, in OT, and my team has no nodes... I will drive around honking my horn... and not even shoot at people. Sorry.

Originally Posted by FuzzySlippers

Sorry, but I have to admit that I sandbag. If it's 30 points left on the core, in OT, and my team has no nodes... I will drive around honking my horn... and not even shoot at people. Sorry.

I'm picturing you going around honking waving and saying hi out the window

Originally Posted by TotalBurn

Ive always have respect for you as a player and I know everything you do is with the teams best interest. You dont fuck around and winning the round is a priority.

Hell, I get pissed if we don't get 2 points!

Originally Posted by Enyo

Hell, I get pissed if we don't get 2 points!

Ah man, this brings back memories of when Guy raged because his team had the opportunity to get a 2 pointer and failed to show up for it. He raged over that and his team was winning.

Now if the game is MegaBadgers and we have a 4 man scramble going on and my team is absolutely killing the other team, I'll sandbag just to keep the best map on the server in play a little longer. Haha!

Nothing is wrong with standing down when the count down timer is in it's last 60 seconds. But I've seen top tier players who play daily stand down when there is still 5+ minutes of time left on the clock. Really? Why don't they exit and allow somebody else to play in their spot? Because they are dick heads.

And speaking of dick heads, ahem, I don't see anything changing on this server. This is a lawless town with no sheriffs onboard. The owners have left the building and they are not coming back. Be glad the thing is still running and enjoy the time we have left here. Because if there is any glitch this community will become a ghost town, down in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by McLovin

Be glad the thing is still running and enjoy the time we have left here. Because if there is any glitch this community will become a ghost town, down in a heartbeat.

x2

Best of luck going forward Sarge. UT2K4, and Omni in particular has provided support and a place to hang
out for many (the Cheers of the FSP world). Sounds like you're in a good place man, keep it up.

Another example just yesterday. JunkYard, it’s hopeless and our lead player has called it quits, sitting idle at the base chatting it up. We lose that round and eventually they leave, making room for a new player, new blood comes in and we win the match.

Originally Posted by McLovin

Another example just yesterday. JunkYard, it’s hopeless and our lead player has called it quits, sitting idle at the base chatting it up. We lose that round and eventually they leave, making room for a new player, new blood comes in and we win the match.

Who?

Originally Posted by Mr.Crow

Who?

Army. The guy is on par with Enyo as one of our best players on the server right now. He is unstoppable and can turn a game around in a heartbeat. One of our brightest players we have onboard lately.

But when his team is the shit and they are losing it badly, he just sits at base and waits for the game to end to get it over with. If you call him out on it, he mouths off to you. I'm not talking about 60 seconds left on the count down timer, I'm talking 5 or more minutes left to play before overtime.

At least Guy, would give everyone a "Have a nice day shit stains, this is what losing looks like, you earned it." then rage quit.

Team dynamics change constantly when people leave or spectate, others come and go. But holding a spot while being idle as your team suffers is unforgiveable.

Originally Posted by McLovin

Another example just yesterday. JunkYard, it’s hopeless and our lead player has called it quits, sitting idle at the base chatting it up. We lose that round and eventually they leave, making room for a new player, new blood comes in and we win the match.

Though I get your point....

Originally Posted by McLovin

it’s hopeless

Definition of hopeless
1 a : having no expectation of good or success : despairing felt hopeless and alone
b : not susceptible to remedy or cure doctors say his condition is hopeless
c : incapable of redemption or improvement She's a hopeless romantic. the most hopeless group of golfers you've ever seen
2 a : giving no reason to expect good or success : giving no ground for hope : desperate The situation looked hopeless.
b : incapable of solution, management, or accomplishment : impossible a hopeless task
— hopelessness noun

Enyo has been known to do the same on many maps, except he just leaves without the chat.

What you mean people still rage quit?!


I've noticed lately, some really, really good team play and then you get on team with point whores and spawn campers and its pretty damn frustrating.

Originally Posted by provert

Enyo has been known to do the same on many maps, except he just leaves without the chat.

I can admit that I have "rage quit" from time to time, though it has been quite a while since I have. More often I leave in the middle of a match whether my team is winning or losing because real life requires it or the "Queen" is beckoning and I know better than to put this game before her.

Regardless of whether anyone believes my sudden departure from the game is a rage quit or not, I really don't care. So Provert, feel free to make whatever assumptions you want to make yourself feel better about getting spanked repeatedly by yours truly.

Besides, nobody here should be throwing stones and pretending they never actually rage quit themselves. Rage quitting aside I do not sandbag, which is the actual topic of this thread. In fact, I do just as the title suggests... fight or leave.